This is a guest post by Greg Dane. Greg is a new blogger over at RVclear.com. As it turns out, he is a commercial truck dealer. Let’s hear his advice on how to buy the right truck for your RV, or vice versa.
There are three kinds of RVers out there: ones who don’t need a truck, ones who have a truck, and ones who need a truck. Here, I’ll talk about the latter pair. (If you’re one of the first, what are you doing here anyway?)
If you’re in the market for an RV and you already have a truck or SUV there are a few things you need to consider:
First, know your limitations.
If you own a half ton truck and you want to pull a 14k pound fifth wheel, it’s just not going to work. Why? Most half ton trucks, (think Ford F150 or a Chevrolet Silverado 1500) will pull anywhere between 7,000 pounds and 9,500 pounds depending on how the rear end is geared and how tough the transmission is. Not to get too technical but a lower number like a 3.10 rear end means better fuel economy, and less towing capacity than say, a 3.42 rear end.
Here are some rules of the road:
You have three major truck manufactures out there who build half tons, 3/4 tons, and 1 tons. These of course are Chevy, Ford, and Dodge. The imports, like Toyota and Nissan, are nice vehicles but they don’t build anything bigger for retail use than a half ton truck.
So, if you think you want a travel trailer, ask yourself what size you could get with your current vehicle.
A small 10-14’ trailer will typically weigh anywhere from 2,500 pounds and up. The upper end of a longer trailer, say a 34’ will hit around 7 or 8k pounds. Now, most full size SUVs and properly-equipped half ton trucks can handle those weights. That said, I recommend you make sure to have a transmission cooler added. This will ensure you don’t burn up that precious vehicle climbing steep hills. You will also need trailer brakes to assist with breaking. It is important to not rely too much on your truck breaks. Also, a “tow haul mode” would be nice as this allows the engine to do some breaking for you, sparing your break pads. You do not want them screaming “Ouch! That hurts!”.
Finally, as I said earlier, make sure the rear end is geared so that you can pull the weight of your to-be trailer. Anything starting with a 3.42 up to a 4.10 should be good to go, but make sure to verify before you buy.
When you see a truck pulling a trailer and the whole thing looks like an inverted teeter totter, that’s too much trailer for the truck.
Simple, right? Remember this easy formula to avoid that embarrassment.
The tongue weight (the weight that rest on the ball hitch) is around 10-15% of the trailer’s weight. So, if you have a 7,000 pound trailer, your tongue weight at minimum will be 700 pounds.
Then you need to think about a stabilizer hitch. This helps distribute the weight to give you a smoother and safer ride. The next time you’re driving down the road and you see a trailer fishtailing behind the vehicle it’s being towed by, get out of its way. The driver of that vehicle has not followed my advice. Yikes!
If you get with a reputable RV dealer, they will guide you in the right direction based on your current vehicle.
And you should listen to them.
Too many times, I’ve seen customers buy a too-big rig and ruin their tow vehicle. A perfect example of this is when a customer is in love with his truck and knows beyond a shadow of a doubt that he/she can pull anything. My brother lives on the edge like this. His 2005 F150 is rated to pull up to 9k pounds. Guess what his fifth wheel weighs? Yep, 9k lbs.
He knows without me telling him that if he upgrades, he’ll need a bigger truck. And if he didn’t do that? Well, the first thing to go will be the transmission. It just can’t handle the pressure.
RVs depreciate worse than trucks and cars. This means it is extremely prudent that you take your time in finding the right one. Talk to friends, get on some Facebook groups, research the manufacturer, whatever it takes! Each RV manufacturer and every car and truck manufacturer publish the recommended towing weights of any given vehicle.
There’s a ton of stuff to think about. Classes of hitches, goose neck vs. fifth wheel? Yes, these issues have to be addressed as well, but that’s for another day. Measure twice and buy once!
What about weekend warriors?
If you don’t full-time and just get out on the weekends and such, a 2,500 pound travel trailer would be great for you! Most any small SUV or half ton truck will pull it with ease. R-Pods are all the rage these days along with those retro/vintage trailers you see in the vibrant red and green. These types of trailers are light and don’t require a lot of horsepower to be pulled safely.
Enjoy!
The same principles apply if you decide to buy an RV before the truck. Here’s how to buy the right truck for your RV.
I sell commercial trucks for a living, so I knew when we decided to buy an RV and live in it full-time I would need to buy the truck later since we didn’t own one at the time.
I bought a 36′ fifth wheel that grosses out at over 14,000 pounds. When you go this big, you’re stepping up into the big boy toys in terms of what class of truck you need. I would suggest visiting several campgrounds and just look around at the various combinations. This will help you figure out how to buy the right truck for your RV.
Most rigs like mine are towed by 3/4 ton or 1 ton truck with either a big V-8 (mine is an 8.1L Vortec V8 that Chevy no longer makes) or a diesel. Diesel trucks get decent gas mileage and they have tremendous low range torque. I don’t want to offend true diesel lovers but you will spend a fortune down the road maintaining them. Sure, they will last longer but you can get 300,000 miles out of a durable big V8 in today’s market, (like the 6.0L made by Chevrolet.)
Now what does that mean?
Think about the tortoise and the hare. When you pull a big RV, you don’t (or shouldn’t) care about how fast you can pull it. Your focus should be about whether or not you can pull it at all. This means you want to be the tortoise in this scenario.
Personally, I like the gas burner because it’s less maintenance for me down the road.
Whatever you buy, and if this is your first time RVing like us, please, please, please, buy used. There are great deals out there and you can save thousands. If you tire of the whole RV thing after awhile, a good used truck will always find another home. As a dealer I can tell you, if it runs at all, it will sale. In fact, our kids just sold a little Mazda B2000 (Ford Ranger really) and got more than they paid for it. It was a junker they had named Willy, after my dad. (My dad always drove small trucks!)
Finally, and this is the most important point of all, buy the RV that suits you and your family the best.
It’s like this. I once learned from an interior designer that you buy art for art and not to have the art match your walls or furniture. A quality piece of art last forever but homes get remodeled all the time. You should be comfortable in what you buy in order to truly love the experience. I wanted to buy a travel trailer but my wife knew that I would not be happy over time because I’m 6’5. She’s the smart one.
So be happy with your purchase, get some expert advice, and happy camping!
What do you think of Greg’s advice?
Let me know in the comments!
Jim says
Far too many push the limits of their trucks. Too many with the attitude that my pickup will pull anything. It might pull anything, but stopping and doing so safely is a whole other story. That is why I am one of the many who use a true HDT (semi tractor) to pull my 5er. Far cheaper long term and can be cheaper short term too, unless you must have new and nothing is safer. A CDL it is not required since the truck is registered as a personal truck, RV or motorhome depending on your home state rules. All states are CDL exempt. But DC does require their residents to have a CDL. While most of us pull 5ers, some do pull the bumper pull trailers and one has a custom pintle hook hitch. The leos love us with HDT too, they know we are safe. If you want to learn more about HDT RV, then search for the groups on Facebook. But if you do use your car, SUV or pickup, do yourself a favor and buy a ProPride hitch. The ONLY regret I have heard from those who use a ProPride is they wish they had done it sooner.
Camille Lorz says
Any blog posts about being a new full time RV’r? It’s just me and my dog and I’ve never owned a truck or RV but I’m growing tired of standard town living. Ultimately I want some land and open space but for now I need a place for me and my boy and I like the idea of the adventure and travel. But ideas aren’t reality. Any tips and suggestions to help avoid making a foolish mistake?
Liz says
Hey Camille! Great question! I highly suggest you join this Facebook group to help you answer some questions about RVing and how to hit the road. I’m not sure what your personal struggles/questions about life on the road are, so can’t give specific blog posts or anything….BUT I find the most helpful thing is to get into a group and ask questions as you go along. This is a group I facilitate and it should be really helpful for you!
https://www.facebook.com/groups/196329124218980/
Lori says
Been shopping for RVs for almost a year I’m at the point where I realized I’m just going to get something no more than 22 feet but it’s interesting the difference between Brands can vary 3000 pounds! Even if they’re the same size I’m only going for anywhere between 18 and 24 ft 26 ft and I figure if I buy half a ton truck I should be safe. This is great advice really helped me a lot in my little bit of a panic mode here!
You’re right stop searching! I’m looking at a 2013 Chevy Silverado will I be okay 1500
Liz says
It depends, Lori. How heavy is the 22 ft-er you want to buy? It seems like it should pull it just fine, but just make sure it’s not too heavy (or you don’t fill it up past its max!) and you should be fun! Good luck out there and thanks so much for reading and commenting.
Kenney says
Decide what you need,under 150,000mi and clean,then look up any factory problems with the truck when new and find out if that it has been fixed like Chevy lifters etc.,figure how much you have to put in it and go for it and hope for the best.
Liz says
Good advice! Thanks for reading and sharing Kenney!
Amber says
How old of a truck should i buy if im going to be traveling alot. Im looking at 2009 and 2010. But could i go older? Mostly curious.
Liz says
It depends on if the truck is reliable…or if you or someone you’re traveling with is handy. We have an 07 motorhome and have had some troubles, but it was nothing crazy because my husband is a mechanic. I imagine the same would be for your truck engine. If you buy something older, be prepared for more often maintenance than a newer truck. I would suggest buying as new as possible for your budget.
Advance Truck Wreckers says
In the market today, there are lots of categories, sizes, and types of trucks we can choose from. We have vans, cabs, tippers, box body and flat bed trucks, containers, and specialised trucks, among many others. Just tell the dealer or agent about your business and how you aim to use it, and he’ll definitely find the perfect commercial vehicle for you. It’s a rather large purchase, but the process is easy.
Liz says
So true! The hardest part is to stop researching, I think!
Erica Anderson says
Very helpful! Thank you!
Liz says
You’re welcome Erica. Glad you found the information useful.
Terri Atwood says
Great blog! Thanks for the advice!
Liz says
Thanks for reading Terri and I hope you stick around!